A chance to see and be seen, well-dressed couples and families filled the streets, adding to the festive atmosphere. In the twilight, we followed the steady stream of people up Via del Corso to Palazzo Chigi, seat of the Italian government.
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Street lamps glowed warmly against fading terracotta, the chatter of shoppers spilling from shop doorways as we made our way past the Pantheon towards Piazza Navona. He confided that he had chatted with a few women, but almost all were in locations that he was unlikely to visit anytime soon. A photo posted by Bar Del Fico bardelficoroma on Nov 15, at 7: In some ways, my own experience was similar.
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Take Umit for example, a business man 12 years my senior. If you accept, I can organise everything from plane tickets to five-star hotels. You ask for what and I can tell you for joy and passion. I know my age but please [know] that only a mature man can give you that queen feeling. At the end of our date, Lorenzo leaned in for a kiss… on the cheek.
The feeling, it seemed, was mutual. That evening I met with Luigi, an old friend from Rome, and our talk drifted to relationships.
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For me, as a person of color, racism and xenophobia are very closely related and often indistinguishable. In the Netherlands often Africans and Moroccans are associated with crime, but the Dutch can easily distinguish me, an American, from them and even from the Surinamese. Thus, I am able to go to about in jeans and a T-shirt with no hassles. In Rome, however, I feel I have to be dressed to the nines just to go to the grocery. I miss the Italy of my student days. But to treat people differently based on their race is totally unacceptable.
As a result, Google now sends such […]. Thanks for dampening my dream! Obviously, my article was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek ok, maybe more than a bit. Some of them are heartbreakers, you are right. Of course, I have nothing against Italian men, but I think they are still behind Italian women.
Your pics with Jessica and Demetra are simply beautiful. Manners and formalities are not only important in Italy, but they are […]. I still have not met a single Italian woman. It seems impossible for a foreign man to meet a native woman. Meanwhile, foreign women meet local men by the dozen. I have lived in several countries -the UK, Argentina, Brazil, Spain and the Netherlands- and always met locals, men as well as women.
I have some theories, but I need to devise a poll for Italian women to see if I can get some hard data. I am quite sure the article you have in mind will be a success. There must be a zillion articles on foreign women and Italian men, but hardly one single article on the other combination. Also interesting are the Italian-language articles on http: Perhaps the motives of foreign girls in Rome explain why Italian girls are so diffident of foreign men.
An outsider had to be accepted by the entire clicca before the girl would trust him. It would also part of the social protocol game where the girl needs to be seen to be hard to get. Hey Carly, thanks for your perspective! I just started following you and Im glad I did! Thanks for the laugh. Hi Ann, thanks so much!! I can offer the perspective of an Italian woman living in NYC — and yes, unfortunately American men do come across as a bit bland to us, courtship-wise. Italian women will take initiative, but here in the US men freak out if the girl makes the first step, which is quite amusing, and works out well in the end — it becomes self-selective.
Not in a mean way, but it is entertaining. I would also add that Italian women, at present, are significantly LESS interested in marriage than American women, and I am talking about educated, upper-middle class urban American women. And it works out for the best for people who do end up marrying us, because chances are it means we really wanted to marry. Best wishes for your little girl! You have put it better than I could have.
Thanks for the wishes for the bambina…she is really a joy and it will be interesting to see which culture she gravitates towards as she gets older. I really enjoyed reading this. It was in a very romantic way. I kept making eye contact with him and thought he was extremely handsome. Then hours later I saw a friend request from him on Facebook. He wrote my name down and found me on there.
He wrote me a beautiful message and left his number but said that he would only be in New York for 2 more days. We met up the next day and I had such an amazing time with him. Now that he is back in Torino he texts me everyday and sends the most beautiful messages and videos. Saying that he feels a spark too and is so happy he met me and that he tells everyone about me. But I am also quite aware of the Italian charm. I am nervous that his messages may be insincere while mine are very sincere.
He works for a big italian soccer team and said he might have a week off in September. I am debating flying out to see him because I have always wanted to go to Europe and he is from the town my great grandfather is from so I would love to see it. What are your thoughts. Also I am 23 and he is Wow, what a great story…very romantic! We just never know and putting too much pressure on it up front is the quickest way to sabotage the situation. In bocca al lupo! Ah this brings back memories! I did meet a charming man from Italy, while in San Fran.
This nice man was 80 years old…. Cute story if nothing else! Ha, ha, interesting advice from an 80 year-old! But yes, I suppose that would have been a typical attitude in that generation. Thanks for sharing, Melissia! Thanks for your kind words! Who knows, maybe a nice Catholic-Italian man will read this post, too, and see your comment! Though in general what you say applies to both. Incredible Italian men are as good at playing the part of Casanovas as they are, when similar behavior from us in the States would likely get us slapped! Of course, generalizations are difficult, and as you say, norms shift from place to place.
Thanks for your interest…ciao! All it does it cause mistrust and lack of self esteme. Why must they play these games. People get hurt, no one wins. Mind you, I do not think this behaviour is exclusive to Italy. Congratulations on your little bambino. Thanks for the congrats! All the Italian men I met adhered faithfully to the stereotypes, but I had many close male friends so I learned how to recognize all the B.
However, the game was still a lot of fun and I played it into my 40s when I met my American G. We met through Match. He had took me to an expensive German restaurant that he had scouted out before my arrival. We had a wonderful dinner followed by a very romantic evening drinking wine while he played his guitar and sang to me!! Gotta admit, he totally swept me off my feet.
His heritage is all British but I told him that one of his ancestors must have been a Roman soldier! Anyway, thanks for sharing…ciao! I really enjoy reading your blogs, you are such a prolific writer. It has been many centuries since I dated, but being a latina I can relate to the differences between Latins and Americans especially when it comes to dating and relationships…. Thanks so much for your kind words. With the arrival of the bambina, I have a whole new motivation for understanding the modern dating scene…ha, ha.
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Very entertaining and interesting read Rick! It was highly amusing to witness the cat calls on the streets. I assumed it was because they already received too much attention and wanted nothing to do with drawing any more. But the reality is that I was dressed like a backpacker bum I guess, haha. Thanks for sharing your experience…it seems that it pretty much squares with my observations, too. Although I would say that you were right on the first account: In any case, yes, it worked out for you.
And for me, too! Another great article Rick…. Yes, I think American women have a great advantage if they know how to manage it. Maybe you should write a guest post for my blog! Thanks for the auguri…ciao! No compliments for me, he loves me for my mind! He is the least romantic, least jealous man I know. Great article though, many of my friends both Italian and ex-pat face the difficulties you describe.
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Congratulations on your baby news and love to Jessica. Glad that it worked out for you, too! Very entertaining article and,great insight to the Italian dating scene! Obviously you must have acquired some dating skills at some point that enabled you to transcend these differences in the two cultures to have met and married such a beautiful Italian woman! Tanti auguri and keep the lupara handy! As a single Italian woman in my thirty, I would not resort to the online dating.
I think that most of the stereotypes that Shelley mentioned ar true. And as Rick poimts uot in his own post, our culture is not ready for the open, upfront exchange. People like the game, for the most part. I always wondered about the incredible amount of women in their thirties who live with their dog and have no aspiration for marriage or children… When I had my son here in an Italian hospital, I was the youngest mom in the ward.
But then again, I am not in dating scene, this is mere observation. Being able to dance, have a minimal tan and have a Spanish accent in Italian is making italian women melt. I think the peruvian invasion is taking over! In the short span of my article, I could only cover my limited experiences with the most common stereotypes from Rome and south. However, I must tell you that the Hispanic-American vibe plays well all over the world, not just in Northern Italy!
I am half Peruvian.
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I lived in Peru for months decades ago. I found the men to be like the best Italian men — polite, educated in the old connotation , and caring. Now if you ask your husband if the perception of all Peruvian men in Peru is that way, you can be assured that their background will be noted.